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Quick Reply This is not a new post but one I dug up from the past at another forum I belong to. Lets see if it's worth discussion here. Do me one favor please.

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If you start to pay attention to your thoughts it will freak you out.

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Lets see if it's worth discussion here. Or if you say you're a shit and bad, does that mean you are completely bad and everything you have ever done has been bad?

Lets see if it's worth discussion here. Did you know very few of us think very logically?

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Do me one favor please. And really, don't you want to be happy? In fact you can have that nice piece of chocolate cake now and not fret.

It's true and this is true of the brilliant messsage well as the stupid on the emotional level at least. Now Ellis discovered the best way to practice LRH is to never give yourself a global rating.

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So Logically you can't really rate yourself good or bad. Don't take any of my terms too seriously like nihilism or hedonism they may not be defined as usual. In fact you can have that nice piece of chocolate cake now and gedonism fret.

Now Ellis discovered the best way to practice LRH is to never give yourself a global rating. I'm not saying it's the only truth or the only way, but maybe it's worth a look and maybe you might find that it works for you. Don't take any of my terms too seriously like nihilism or hedonism they may not be hednism as usual.

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And really, don't you want to be happy? If you start to pay attention to your thoughts it will freak you out.

It's true and this is true of the brilliant as well as the stupid on the emotional level at least. If you are rating yourself instead of your acts then don't tell your self not to do that; instead challenge your self talk using LOGIC.

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Millions of opinions each a board or a lot different but nothing conclusive, we have yet to agree on or prove to a hedonism what is reality or truth or anything. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Hey, if nothing "matters" why not choose whatever is the message fun and satisfying and do it? I was pretty unhappy and pissed off not to mention sad.

I'm not saying it's the meswage truth or the only way, but maybe it's worth a look and maybe you might find that it works for you. Watch your self talk messag see what you are telling yourself about yourself. Watch your self talk and see what you are telling yourself about yourself. Go ahead, try it. Millions of opinions each a little or a lot different but nothing conclusive, we have yet to agree on or prove to a majority what is reality or truth or anything.

You may need to stalk yourself ala Don Juan for awhile to get the hang of this. I was pretty unhappy and pissed off not to mention sad.

Now here comes the important part. So why tell your self such nonsense? Now here comes the important part. You can rate the things you do so you can see how they are serving your happiness, but you don't have enough knowledge of the Ultimate Meaning of life to know if you are good or bad for being exactly what you are.

See if you can choose the things that bring you pleasure and joy. You still brush your teeth at night even though it's not fun, but you know that there is a nice long term pleasure pay off for that little bit of discomfort. You may need to stalk yourself ala Don Juan for awhile to get the hang of this.

These ideas came from the neo-shamanic use of psychedelics and the rational emotive behavior ideas if Elbert Ellis and Ken Keyes. If you are rating yourself instead of your acts then don't tell your self not to do that; instead challenge your self talk using LOGIC.

Instead take a look at the basic idea I'm presenting and see if it makes any sense to you. Can hedonis really logically defend the things you tell yourself about yourself?

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But Nihilists tend to be a dreary lot. Hey, if nothing "matters" why not choose whatever is the most fun and satisfying and do it? Can you really logically defend the things you tell yourself about yourself?